Dirty disney is not what you think

I wonder what is underneath the Disney Cinderella castle? https://t.co/phxetFPLdYadrenochrome production torture chambers.right. most Disney films are pedophilic/r*pey as fuck and yet……they constantly remake them without any edits up until this one? Maybe it’s time to just rewrite them all, Walt Disney was a gross pedo and all those stories are outdated as helliDisneyland and Disney World have both been reported as being used in “Princess Programming” to create high level, mind-controlled sex slaves.

You may recall the TV show The Mickey Mouse Club that aired intermittently from 1955 to 1996.

Child actors in the Mickey Mouse Club were known as Mouse-Keteers, which is undoubtedly a reference to MK Ultra.

disnot please ……..not good programming …Disney is horror…it’s suffering of children…..in a plastic world..sick…universal disclaimers for satanic tv and internet and media and toy’s….. https://t.co/VMvXL7cdhTDisneyland and Disney World have both been reported as being used in “Princess Programming” to create high level, mind-controlled sex slaves.Behind Disney’s good facade lies hard porn, snuff films, white slavery, mind control and the seduction of several generations into witchcraft.https://twitter.com/Infin_ET/status/1182878319814950913?s=19http://www.christfirstministries.com/articles-31/278—the-wizard-of-oz–alice-in-wonderland-5109
Walt grew up fascinated with the occult. He was also in an abusive home situation. He was fascinated with cartoons, nature and children. He had an intuitive sense for quality cartoons that would appeal to children. At some point, the syndicate got him indebted to them. At that point he was their man. He owed them a debt that they held over him. In secret, Walt became a porn king. A victim remembers that he was sadistic and enjoyed snuff porn films. His interest in children was far from altruistic.
Disney instructed his animators to make the animals “to be human.” Disney wanted people to forget they are watching animals. Bambi was to receive a Christ-like manger birth, with the animals hailing him as a “prince.” Due to his sexual problems, Walt at one point permitted himself to be subjected to the packing of his genitals in ice for hours at a time. (Elliot, Walt Disney Hollywood’s Dark Prince, p. 83.) Children were instructed to call Walt “Uncle Walt.” An example of this were the Mouseketeers. For those who know how mind-control programmers have traditionally liked to be called “uncle” by their child victims, the insistence by Walt to be known as “uncle” is telling.”They would call you out of the basement, and you’d get a bath and you’d get a dress, and if your dress was yellow you were probably going to #Disneyland.” She said they used color coding to make transactions safer for the traffickers and the clients.”
https://t.co/xIyBFFiUem https://t.co/f2YvXzVQCZhttps://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/25/magazine/the-girls-next-door.html🔻 Disney’s distinguished ships pamper Guests with state-of-the-art comforts, legendary Epstein service and Disney-exclusive rape activities. With so much to experience getting there is half the fun..pedophiles, torture, killings and a dose of adrenochrome at your disposal.. https://t.co/Tqlg3F3Bkx

https://twitter.com/Vanom81946166/status/1196967580231249920?s=09The Magic Kingdom tunnels occupy over 390,000 square feet of space underground
There are *29* access points from the Disney Utilidors to the Magic Kingdom above.
#Disney
#Disneyland
#DisneyWorld
#WaltDisneyWorld #Tunnel
#DisneyMagic #Freemasons #masons #magickingdom https://t.co/X37Q73VKK4https://youtu.be/0aFUemaJFVY

👉Disney owns ABC.
👉Disney cruise ships went to Epstein Island.
👉Disney chairman Richard Cook took trips on the Lolita Express, then was appointed to chairman.
👉Disney’s ABC squashed the Epstein story three years ago.#EpsteinCoverup https://t.co/vm0z733o7jhttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5162055/amp/Disney-executive-charged-molesting-underage-girls.html?__twitter_impression=trueWalt Disney was a pedophile.With the help of the CIA, he purchased the land to build Disney World.The CIA trafficks children, under a program called “The Finders.”States that have a Disney park are now major child trafficking areas.#WWG1WGA #Disney #SavetheChildrenDisney hires pedophiles.

Disneyland in California not
knowing there is a perverts’ playground packed with prostitutes on the
doorstep.

The sleazy sex trade is rife in Anaheim, the town that is home to Disneyland,
with some vice girls aged just TEN.

Married British holidaymakers are among the punters using the hookers, while
young Brits are among the victims of sex trafficking in the area.

Shocking figures reveal around 40 per cent of the prostitutes in Anaheim are
under-age.

Many of the sex workers operate on a hotel-packed stretch of Beach Boulevard,
known as the Mile of Madness, where many of those visiting for their dream
holiday choose to stay.

Concerned charities claim hundreds of hookers operate out of restaurants and
hotels used by tourists.

Some are even sneaked into Disney properties under the noses of unsuspecting
bosses.

Last night D’Lita Miller, from Families Against Sex Trafficking, said: “Men
travelling here with their families are slipping away and paying for these
girls to have sex with them.

“This is going on in Disneyland because it is part of our neighbourhood.

Debra, whose organisation helped 250 abused girls last year, with an average
age of 12 to 14, added: “For huge sporting events and conferences the pimps
ship girls in specifically to fulfil the demand.

“These girls are abducted at a young age and brainwashed into thinking their
pimp is their dad.

“They get trained by older girls. They dress them up, put make-up on then walk
up the street.

“This is not Pretty Woman. Pimps use that movie to convince girls that their
Richard Gere is going to sweep them off their feet.

“In truth they are sex slaves with an average lifespan of SEVEN YEARS.
Each time they step into a car it could be their final journey.”

The charity leaders, who reckon more than 5,000 working girls operate in the
LA tourist corridor, have urged Disneyland bosses and law enforcement to
tackle the problem.

During our investigation, The Sun on Sunday photographed sex workers on the
Mile of Madness at night and in broad daylight.

One woman in her forties, dressed in jeans and a grey shirt, accosted several
men filling their cars with petrol. Later she met a man in a silver Lexus in
the parking area of a small mall. After a brief discussion, she got in his
car.

Forty minutes later he dropped her off and she continued prowling the area.
Another, wearing tight purple hot pants and a black top, flagged down
drivers “for a ride” and approached tourists.

Anaheim/Disneyland prostitute investigation. A girl seen waiting by the side of the road gets into a car after a brief convesation with the driver.

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Further up Beach Boulevard a man in a cap and sunglasses met a woman in the
parking lot. After buying items from a store, including condoms, he invited
her into his car and they drove off.

Local businesses are forced to put up with prostitutes gathering outside their
stores all day.

Oscar Camacho, manager of the fast-food franchise El Pollo Loco, said
prostitutes operate at all times of the day and night.

He said: “They hang out on the sidewalk and parking lot, wearing short skirts,
and pick up customers at all hours. They drive away and usually come back in
an hour and take another customer. Some of them are very young. Often they
buy food before they go home.

“It can get crazy. Gang-bangers, girls, pimps and customers can all be in the
restaurant or outside. If you call the police, by the time they arrive the
girls have left.”

Restaurant manager Sebina Shah claims some girls use their toilets to do
business with their clients.

She said: “They don’t care. One girl threatened to hit me when I asked her to
leave. It’s a bad area with bad people.”

In 2011 police arrested 38 pimps and earned a 100 per cent conviction rate.
They rescued more than 380 women.

The non-profit Community Service Programs saves 180 people a year from sex
trafficking. It revealed figures from a 2014 report which found British
girls were among the victims and 42 per cent of all victims were minors.

Ronnetta Johnson, director of the Community Service Programs, revealed the sex
trade in the area has soared in the past five years.

She said: “We have established relationships with the authorities and
have done a lot of work with hotels. I cannot speak for what Disney does or
doesn’t know.

“But it is well known here and throughout the States that Anaheim is a
destination for this kind of trafficking.”

The Sun on Sunday tried to contact Disneyland for comment around 30 times
by phone and email. Despite promising to call us back, we never received a
response.

Additional reporting: JAMES DESBOROUGH

Traffick problem on beach

ANAHEIM police revealed there have been 746 human trafficking investigations
there since 2010.

Lieutenant Bob Dunn said they had identified 90 victims – including 11 this
year – and arrested 66 pimps.

He said: “The majority of the problem is in the Beach Boulevard area. It’s
between Knott’s Berry Farm and Disney, so tourists do stay there.

“We’ve made arrests for prostitution in the resort area, but more on Beach
Boulevard.

“In 2010 we loosely formed a human trafficking taskforce. Things got better –
but not quick enough for our residents.

“People would move from hotel to hotel when they got busted.

“So recently we took that taskforce to a more formal level.

“Those who come to visit us here in Anaheim need to be aware that it is
illegal to engage in this type of activity.

“And the girls that engage in this are probably being victimised themselves.

“We have a long-standing relationship with Disney and it participates in the
crime alert network in the area.

“The hotels in the area meet monthly, so if there is prostitution activity
suspected, they can deal with it.”

Mickey Mouse

WALT DISNEY
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“I am certain there are girls going in to Disney hotels. Without a doubt
clients are booking girls in hotels in their areas where all tourists stay.

“People are in denial about this crime wave. It is not getting the attention
it deserves.

“If tourists really understood what was happening they would think twice
about visiting and that could spark some action.

“I don’t believe Disney is aware that this is happening on such a large scale.”

The main red-light district is just four miles from the gates of Disneyland
and surrounded by hotels.

Around 14million visitors a year head to the theme park, with tens of
thousands making the journey from the UK.

Other popular attractions here, including Knott’s Berry Farm theme park and
the Medieval Times restaurant, are even closer to street corners where
working girls congregate.

Campaigner Debra Dolce, of the Forgotten Children charity which rescues girls
from the clutches of pimps, revealed that some girls are as young as ten.

She said: “There are hundreds of girls working the streets in the area. The
sheer volume is so overwhelming that the police cannot get on top of it.

“Many tourists would be shocked at how horrific the sex trafficking is here.
Some of the girls we’ve rescued are as young as ten, which shows PAEDOPHILES
are targeting the area too.

Anaheim/Disneyland prostitute investigation. A girl seen waiting by the side of the road gets into a car after a brief convesation with the driver.

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“Sex trafficking and under-age prostitution is a huge issue in California. The
pimps really are untouchable in some areas. It is a situation spiralling out
of control.”

Some customers have even boasted to the sex workers that they have flown in to
Anaheim especially to mix a family holiday with the chance to buy sex.

Debra explained: “They will travel with their family then leave them to go and
buy prostitutes.

“We’ve rescued hundreds of girls from this trade, but so many feel their lives
are at risk if they leave their pimps.

Homeland Security have come to interview the girls along with the police and
FBI, but I’m not sure if those services are working together.

“The regular policeman on the beat is not enough. We want to help the girls
and stop the pimps.

“They travel in caravans evading detection and prosecution. We need everyone
fighting to stop pushing the problem from town to town.”

Local police have tried to break up pimp and sex trade rings. Lt Eric Trapp
said: “The truth is these problems didn’t happen overnight and they won’t be
solved that fast either.”

Girls sell their bodies for as little as $25 (£15) to punters in cars, while
others rent rooms at tourist spots to sleep with enough men until they earn
$1,000 (£595).

Aside from the large theme parks there are also renowned convention centres,
music and sports stadia in the area.

Disney abuses child actors.
Disney knew Epstein was a pedo.
Disney Cruises visit Epstein Island.
Disney knew Bill visited 26 times.
Disney knew Hillary was running.
Disney buried the Epstein story.
Disney needs to be charged.These people are sick.https://youtu.be/Ma24xM8xie4#DISNEY EXPOSED BY #BELLATHORNE!#DIS #Mouseketeers #BritneySpears #AriannaGrande #MileyCyrus#ChildSexTrafficking #Hollywood #AllisonMack #MKUltra #NXIVM#Nickelodeon #DanSchneider#LockUpEpsteinhttps://t.co/yHTGNLYiLo via @YouTubeDisney is the largest child procurement network in the world, making children slaves for adults to have sex with them #pedogate #pizzagate #podestaemails #WikiLeaks secret pedophile symbols throughout all of their movies. The companies that Disney owns as well.

Former Disney star Bella Thorne claims she was “molested” and “physically abused” during her years as a child actress in the entertainment industry, and those around her did nothing about it.
The former Shake it Up actress made the explosive claims during a recent interview with BUILD, speaking about her new book The Life of a Wannabe Mogul: Mental Disarray and her transition from a child Disney star to an adult in the entertainment industry.Bella Thorne described the transition as “tough,” adding, “If you read the book you’ll be like, ‘Haha transitioning from Disney to this was fucking easy.’ I don’t know.”“Getting molested, for fucking, from when you’re six to your 14, seems like way harder circumstances,” the actress continued. “You’re being physically abused all the time. Seems like a much more difficult situation than fucking having paparazzi following you since you were 12.”

Watch — Former Disney Star Bella Thorne: I was Molested from ‘6 to 14,’ ‘Everyone Around Me Saw and Did Nothing’

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Former Disney star Bella Thorne claims she was “molested” and “physically abused” during her years as a child actress in the entertainment industry, and those around her did nothing about it.
The former Shake it Up actress made the explosive claims during a recent interview with BUILD, speaking about her new book The Life of a Wannabe Mogul: Mental Disarray and her transition from a child Disney star to an adult in the entertainment industry.

Bella Thorne described the transition as “tough,” adding, “If you read the book you’ll be like, ‘Haha transitioning from Disney to this was fucking easy.’ I don’t know.”

“Getting molested, for fucking, from when you’re six to your 14, seems like way harder circumstances,” the actress continued. “You’re being physically abused all the time. Seems like a much more difficult situation than fucking having paparazzi following you since you were 12.”
Thorne, who didn’t name her abusers, said it was difficult to have paparazzi constantly following her, not knowing about the physical abuse she was going through at the time.
“I was still being molested when paparazzi were still fucking following me,” she continued, exclaiming that it was difficult to watch people around her seeing what was happening and doing “nothing” about it. “So it’s pretty hard in my mind to think of these big flashlight photographs, and everyone thinking they know me and talking about me, but having no idea the type of mistreatment that I was still dealing with at that time — that everyone around me saw and did nothing.”
“So, I don’t know, you tell me what’s so hard. Because that to me is way harder than any of this other shit I deal with on a daily basis,” Bella Thorne said.

She probably expected to have that part since she was a child star. When she found out she didn’t get it she decided to get some revenge. Or maybe it was a threat from her. This could show how the celebrities are kept silent by being given roles.

The sequence of events in the public’s eye was 1. The Interview https://twitter.com/anonymousq1776/status/1145777062713548800?s=21 2. The black Ariel announcement. (Some speculate as a distraction).

But it seems Bella had her eyes on this part. And my guess is it has been her childhood dream. So it makes sense that Bella was trying to coerce Disney before their final decision or to get revenge if it was already decided.

As far back as 2016 there was talk she would get the role: https://www.gamenguide.com/articles/52374/20161006/the-little-mermaid-live-action-movie-latest-news-update-chloe-moretz-drops-ariels-role-over-suspiria-bella-thorne-the-new-ariel.htm

Here she is dressed up as a mermaid in 2013 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2488123/Bella-Thorne-transforms-mermaid-dazzling-new-photo-shoot-sisters.html

So while many have assumed that Disney announced the black Ariel to distract from Bella’s interview, my guess is that Bella already knew she didn’t get the part and she was either sending a message to coerce Disney or she was getting revenge. Let’s hope she gets louder with the truth.

The video of her admitting it.

https://twitter.com/JohnDoe78359022/status/1145301281361334273?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1145301281361334273&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnewspunch.com%2Fformer-child-star-molested-age-6-14-disney%2F

“It’s definitely tough. But it is what it is. It’s like anything in my life. If you read the book you’ll be like, ‘Haha transitioning from Disney to this was fucking easy.’ I don’t know. Getting molested from when your six to your fourteen seems like way harder circumstances. You’re being physically abused all the time. Seems like a much more difficult situation than fucking having paparazzi following you since you were twelve. Um, I don’t know. I was still being molested when paparazzi were still fucking following me. So it’s pretty hard in my mind to think of these big flashlight photographs, and everyone thinking they know me and talking about me, but having no idea the type of mistreatment that I was still dealing with at that time. That everyone around me saw and did nothing. So, I don’t know you tell me what’s so hard. ‘Cause that to me, way harder than any of this other shit I deal with on a daily basis.”

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2019/07/03/bella-thorne-i-was-molested-from-6-to-14/

https://newspunch.com/former-child-star-molested-age-6-14-disney/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bella_Thorne

She does however have some disturbing stuff posted on Instagram. She could be a victim turned perp. These were found by Oh_Well_ian.

https://voat.co/v/whatever/3315148/19566039

A drawn picture of herself (I believe) holding a bloody Human skeleton.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bn-rqdkAQc0/

A dancing child

https://www.instagram.com/p/BmRVaXRA_cX/

Herself with horns

https://www.instagram.com/p/BkESu6DAeFG/

Holding a bunny rabbit plush with the words pussy mine

https://www.instagram.com/p/Blvy2RRAyd1

Former Disney star says she was molested for years as a child in Hollywood, and no one did a thing about it

Actress did not reveal her alleged attackers

Photo by Jim Spellman/Getty Images

Actress Bella Thorne, former Disney child star, says she was victimized repeatedly by sexual molestation while working in the entertainment industry as a child.

What are the details?

While promoting her latest book, “The Life of a Wannabe Mogul: Mental Disarray,” Thorne revealed that she suffered at the hands of pedophiles from the time that she was 6 years old until she turned 14.

In a June interview, Thorne said that everyone around her in the entertainment industry saw what was happening, but “did nothing” to stop it.

“The transition [from child actress to adult], it’s definitely tough,” she said. “But it is what it is. It’s like anything in my life. If you read the book, you’ll be like, ‘Haha, transitioning from Disney to this was f***ing easy. I don’t know — getting molested for f***ing from when you’re 6 to you’re 14 seems like way harder circumstances.”

Thorne went on to explain the hardships she endured while employed by Disney, comparing them to celebrities complaining about intrusive press.

“You’re being physically abused all the time,” she insisted. “Seems like a much more difficult situation than f***ing having paparazzi following you since you were 12. Um, I don’t know. I was still being molested when paparazzi were still f***ing following me.”

Thorne explained that her experience growing up in the spotlight was harder than anything she’s had to endure so far.

“[I]t’s pretty hard in my mind to think of these big flashlight photographs, and everyone thinking they know me and talking about me, but having no idea the type of mistreatment that I was still dealing with at that time,” she said. “That everyone around me saw and did nothing. So, I don’t know you tell me what’s so hard. ‘Cause that to me, way harder than any of this other s*** I deal with on a daily basis.”

The actress has yet to reveal her alleged attackers.

Bella Thorne Speaks On Her Book, “The Life of a Wannabe Mogul: A Mental Disarray”www.youtube.com

Disney is supposedly a family-oriented company, but it has often been accused of inserting sexual innuendos into its cartoons. Some believe that Walt Disney, himself an alleged practitioner of the occult and closely connected to the 13 bloodlines of the Illuminati, was directed by his Illuminati masters to corrupt the youth, make them more promiscuous and help destroy the traditional family model.

The Illuminati also commissioned the production of Fantasia, a popular Monarch mind-control programming tools.

Here are some of the more popular examples:

THE LITTLE MERMAID – PRIESTLY ERECTION

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During a wedding scene in which the groom is MK-Ultra’d by an evil witch, the priest performing the wedding ceremony appears to have an erection. Disney have since redrawn the scene sans-boner.


THE LITTLE MERMAID – PENIS ON COVER

illuminati-disney-little-mermaid-castle-penises

Poster and cover art for the same 1989 animated film caused controversy when someone who looks for these sort of things noticed that the castle’s golden towers looked like giant penises. The phallic symbols were removed from later editions.

THE LION KING – SEX IN THE SKY

illuminati-disney-lion-king-sex-sfx

Stars in in the sky massing together to spell out the word ‘sex’. Disney claimed it was inserted by its in-house special effects group and meant to represent “s.f.x.”, a signature meaning “special effects”.


THE LION KING – BOOBS IN THE DESERT

Obvious boobs drawn in the desert background of Lion King.


THE RESCUERS – RESCUERS TOPLESS

illuminati-disney-rescuers-topless-woman

In the 1977 version of The Rescuers, another group of rogue disney animators signed their work, this time by inserting two frames of a topless woman. (not really visible in the above screenshots, because this isn’t that sort of site, but they are clearly visible in higher resolution images if you are older than 18 and know how to use Google images)

This one the company took quite seriously and recalled all versions of the film in early 1999. It was reissued with the offending images removed.


WHO FRAMED ROGER RABBIT – JESSICA NO PANTIES

illuminati-disney-roger-rabbit-jessica-no-panties

The 1988 Disney film Who Framed Roger Rabbit also cause some controversy when some enterprising fan watching the film frame by frame noticed Jessica Rabbit went commando. The ensuing controversy led an once-again surprised Disney, once again redrew the scene with Jessica wearing more appropriate undergarment.


TANGLED – SEX

illuminati-disney-tangled-sex


HUNCHBACK OF NOTRE-DAME – SEX

illuminati-disney-hunchback-notre-dame-sex-flames


THE LION KING – SEXY GIRL

illuminati-disney-lion-king-subliminal


MONSTERS, INC – MOM AND DAD HAVING SEX


PETER PAN – PENIS IN SHADOW

The original Peter Pan release allegedly had a suspicious looking shadow appendage. (unconfirmed)


FANTASIA – MICKEY AND THE BOOBS


CINDERELLA – ANAL BEADS


SHORT VIDEO COMPILATION OF SUBLIMINAL MESSAGES INSERTED IN DISNEY CARTOONS

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Subliminal Messages in Cartoons
Running Time : 5 min 38 seconds

The above looks at subliminal messages in Disney films and is followed by a short segment dedicated to Spongebob Squarepants not so subliminal sexual double entendre. I’ve been noticing these in quite a few cartoons, from Bugs Bunny right down to modern Teen Titans.


https://thejusticeheroes.wordpress.com/2020/04/02/nickelodeon/

Former Disney star Bella Thorne claims she was “molested” and “physically abused” during her years as a child actress in the entertainment industry, and those around her did nothing about it.
The former Shake it Up actress made the explosive claims during a recent interview with BUILD, speaking about her new book The Life of a Wannabe Mogul: Mental Disarray and her transition from a child Disney star to an adult in the entertainment industry.Bella Thorne described the transition as “tough,” adding, “If you read the book you’ll be like, ‘Haha transitioning from Disney to this was fucking easy.’ I don’t know.”“Getting molested, for fucking, from when you’re six to your 14, seems like way harder circumstances,” the actress continued. “You’re being physically abused all the time. Seems like a much more difficult situation than fucking having paparazzi following you since you were 12.”

Watch — Former Disney Star Bella Thorne: I was Molested from ‘6 to 14,’ ‘Everyone Around Me Saw and Did Nothing’

Gustavo Caballero/Getty ImagesHANNAH BLEAU3 Jul 20192,715

1:47

Former Disney star Bella Thorne claims she was “molested” and “physically abused” during her years as a child actress in the entertainment industry, and those around her did nothing about it.
The former Shake it Up actress made the explosive claims during a recent interview with BUILD, speaking about her new book The Life of a Wannabe Mogul: Mental Disarray and her transition from a child Disney star to an adult in the entertainment industry.

Bella Thorne described the transition as “tough,” adding, “If you read the book you’ll be like, ‘Haha transitioning from Disney to this was fucking easy.’ I don’t know.”

“Getting molested, for fucking, from when you’re six to your 14, seems like way harder circumstances,” the actress continued. “You’re being physically abused all the time. Seems like a much more difficult situation than fucking having paparazzi following you since you were 12.”
Thorne, who didn’t name her abusers, said it was difficult to have paparazzi constantly following her, not knowing about the physical abuse she was going through at the time.
“I was still being molested when paparazzi were still fucking following me,” she continued, exclaiming that it was difficult to watch people around her seeing what was happening and doing “nothing” about it. “So it’s pretty hard in my mind to think of these big flashlight photographs, and everyone thinking they know me and talking about me, but having no idea the type of mistreatment that I was still dealing with at that time — that everyone around me saw and did nothing.”
“So, I don’t know, you tell me what’s so hard. Because that to me is way harder than any of this other shit I deal with on a daily basis,” Bella Thorne said.

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